36 comments

  • nico 8 minutes ago

    Very very cool! Impressed that it can be done with only fine tuning

    On a very similar theme, I recently built a ā€œlossy gitā€, which stores your code by training a neural network, then it generates the code back to you on checkout

    * web demo: https://nicobrenner.github.io/lossy-git/demo.html

    * cli version: https://nicobrenner.github.io/lossy-git/

    The web demo runs entirely on the browser, both the version control and the neural network training/inference. You can commit and checkout both images or code - you can also paste/ā€œuploadā€ your own images, no server requests (everything clears from the page on reload)

  • andai an hour ago

    >I used Qwen2.5-Coder-0.5B as the starting point. I needed a small model to get close to realtime performance. Being a coding model, it had also already seen plenty of CLI usage.

    Interesting. I wanted to ask, how that model compares with the fine-tuned version, but I just saw the author provided benchmarks. Interesting that fine-tuning improved the memory so significantly, wouldn't have expected that.

    Though, on second thought, I had an experience where I was able to, as a human, fine-tune my memory beyond what I previously thought was possible!

    Reminds me of one of my favorite jokes.

    Excuse me, can you tell me how to get to Carnegie Hall?

    —Practice, man... Practice...

    • treetalker 18 minutes ago

      > … I had an experience where I was able to, as a human, fine-tune my memory beyond what I previously thought was possible!

      Please elaborate.

    • simedw 42 minutes ago

      I haven’t run extensive tests yet, but larger models also get better at memory.

  • donperignon 2 minutes ago

    I tried it and is not working remotely as close as the demo gif. It keeps telling me that "test1" folder that I want to create already exists (not true), then letting me do "mkdier test2" (sic) but then the folder is not there when ls. I mean all its expected, this has no state, follow no rules and is making up things from the current context, but is not as "magical" as I thought when watching the demo.

  • Lerc 22 minutes ago

    I wonder how much a small model could do if it had a tool calling API for a filesystem, an embedded busybox, and a single output token for 'emit what busybox would do here'. Then presumably the model parameters could learn everything that diverges from what busybox can handle.

  • oilkillsbirds 2 hours ago

    Very cool. Fun project. I feel like there’s a wide field to be explored once you understand fine tuning good existing models

  • psandor 2 hours ago

    Reminds me of this project from Microsoft. A Quake II ā€œsimulationā€ model where the whole application was just a model.

    https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/articles/whamm-real...

  • __mp 2 hours ago

    It would be interesting to expose this on the internet. I wonder what the scrapers etc… would do with it.

  • thorum an hour ago

    I regretfully suspect this actually is the future of UI. You just need smart local models running fast enough to keep the framerate high, but that’s inevitable in the long term, isn’t it?

    • gr_norm an hour ago

      Why would you do that instead of having the model do the task you're using the UI for? It could generate UI widgets on-the-fly as needed to take richer inputs.

      • skohan 41 minutes ago

        It might be fine for one-off applications, but it's incredibly inefficient for something that has to be done over and over.

        Why would you use a GPU and gigabytes of VRAM running a non-deterministic process for something a program can do on the CPU in milliseconds with kilobytes of memory?

        • hnlmorg 27 minutes ago

          Probably for the same reasons most of our desktop applications have become slow Chromium instances consuming multiple GBs of RAM, each:

          It’s cheaper to hire developers, and quicker to ship software. The user experience be damned.

          • skohan 17 minutes ago

            The logic here is a bit different. Consumer software is slow because it's the user paying for the compute to run those bloated Electron apps. Unless we're all running local inference in the future, it would be the vendor paying for the compute to run the AI-based UI.

            Of course they would pass that along to the consumer, but nobody is going to pay token-based pricing for something that used to be free and ad-supported, or a cheap monthly subscription.

        • antonvs 28 minutes ago

          I don't really disagree, but... why do we use Javascript for so many UIs? Badly designed web pages with ads can easily use gigabytes of RAM.

          Edit: oh, I saw you wrote a related comment after I posted this. So you already know that direct LLMs for UIs are all but inevitable...

    • skohan an hour ago

      We had decades to work on making software more performant, but instead most users' space-age 2nm chips spend most of their time running Javascript because it was faster to make software that way.

      • winrid 32 minutes ago

        even my ten year old laptop browses the web fine ^_^

        If I had to complain about any site/app it'd be datadog... each tab uses like 1gb in firefox.

  • yjftsjthsd-h an hour ago

    Wait, how did it `sleep 3`? I thought LLMs didn't have a concept of time

    • peder an hour ago

      It’s still rendering frames constantly, no? So it just figures the next X frames are all doing nothing?

      • simedw 38 minutes ago

        Normal only keypresses invoke the next ā€frameā€. There is a sleep token that the runner could use to indicate that time is moving.

    • sprobertson an hour ago

      from the post:

      Time is an input too. If nothing is pressed, the model gets a WAIT token with a duration instead of a key, which is how snake keeps moving on its own.

      • yjftsjthsd-h an hour ago

        That seems as likely as anything, but that just moves the problem to counting, doesn't it? The model gets the duration, but I was under the impression LLMs struggled with the arithmetic that would make that useful.

        • skohan an hour ago

          Idk about Qwen 2.5 Coder that this is based on, but modern models don't struggle with arithmetic. I see Qwen 3.8 do long-hand math in thinking traces (ie. it outputs 17+35+12=64 in the thinking trace) so I would imagine this is something they train into the model specifically. Sometimes it creates and runs a simple python script to check its work.

  • obilgic 2 hours ago

    There was a whole fake gui OS with similar concept right

  • prodigycorp 2 hours ago

    Wow! This this reminds me of when we tried doing this with gpt 3 and.. it worked!

    The tmux thing had me confused for a moment until i realized it was emulating tmux. Super fun. Is the model window width aware?

  • htoz1 2 hours ago

    Where is the point of this project if i have terminal ?

    • YmFzZTY0ZGFkZHk 2 hours ago

      Sometimes it's just fun to do something absurd because you can. This is one of the reasons software is exciting.

    • mehmetoguzderin 2 hours ago

      Terminal world models have many applications, but empirical observation of successful pretraining or fine-tuning can be significant for encapsulating from rather expensive Bash traces, such as ones obtained from systems with scarce accelerators, etc.

    • aghuang an hour ago

      Was thinking the same thing. I just run my usual terminal and get to work.

    • good-idea 2 hours ago

      because curiosity is the most fun of virtues!

    • antonvs 22 minutes ago

      This will allow you to delete your terminal app and, eventually, all other binaries in your system!

    • dotancohen 2 hours ago

      Because it was there