Vlt 1.0 and Hosted Package Registries

(vlt.io)

44 points | by patrikcsak 4 hours ago ago

12 comments

  • thataccount 3 hours ago

    I am not sure exactly what this service is or why it is desirable. Pitch me in five seconds or less?

    • clarke78 2 hours ago

      5s: save time & money

      10s: vlt helps engineering teams build JavaScript software faster, reduce supply chain risk, and lower infrastructure costs (via. API perf / payload optimizations).

      20s: If you've used npm for years & are just narrowly escaping the various malware attacks or are on the hook for running up CI/agent bills at work because cold installs are X percent of the time compared to your actual builds/runtime, then you should check us out.

      22s: Also, <insert jFrog grumble>.

      • wesleytodd 35 minutes ago

        To add a bit of non-Vlt (I work on the JS Platform Team at Netflix where I have driven many of our decisions in the package manager space the past 6 years) but highly involved and supportive community member:

        The team that was able to ship the most important features for npm to be competitive in the modern JS stack from ~2020 was able to take a fresh look at the problem without the organizational baggage of Github/Microsoft.

        On the technical side, the ecosystem is maturing and we need a better set of foundational tools to meet that maturity level. This includes deep commitment to performance, security, and DX. The full product is more than just a package manager, it is a registry, a registry client, a task runner, and much more. Vlt is aiming to be this mature foundation.

        Feel free to correct me if I am wrong on anything here Darcy.

        P.S. grumble grumble...jFrog is a trash fire....grumble grumble

      • baq 31 minutes ago

        ...can you make the 5s pitch be more like 'X times faster than pnpm and more secure' but fill X for me? unless it isn't pnpm at all in which case replace with 'it does X' because I've no idea after reading your post and a quick skim of the announcement itself?

        • clarke78 3 minutes ago

          Perf is highly nuanced but we've been doing realistic benchmarking for the ecosystem for almost a year now: https://benchmarks.vlt.sh/

          We've got more improvements coming soon but we're a roughly ~10-40% faster registry then npm out-of-the-box. Compared to incumbent enterprise registries we're like ~3x.

  • viviansolide 2 hours ago

    This will benefit the entire ecosystem. Well done.

    • clarke78 a minute ago

      Appreciate the kind words! We're excited to keep supporting this ecosystem.

  • nerdalytics 3 hours ago

    Over a year I joined the waitlist and almost forgot that I did. Today the registry is open to deliver on its promises—secure the supply chain.

    • clarke78 3 hours ago

      Founder here - thanks for the vote of confidence! We've got a lot more in store.

  • joeyagreco an hour ago

    So this is advertising as a secure npm?

  • merb 3 hours ago

    Without identity federation via oidc it’s basically not really a replacement for verdaccio

    • clarke78 2 hours ago

      This is coming imminently but appreciate the feedback & will push to get this landed here quickly. That said, our client does support OIDC publishing if your registry does so hopefully you'll still find value there as it's a major step up from legacy npm clients.