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  • rtutz an hour ago

    Climate change already feels chaotic in a sense that earth is heading towards so many tipping points that it is impossible to keep track. In addition, each aspect resides in a niche of a complex system, difficult to grasp. AMOC collapse, melting permafrost methane release, species extinction, intense El Niño, ... All of them are not easily to follow, let alone understand. It's getting wild.

    To my surprise, media coverage nowadays is mostly about heat waves as a phenomenon, leaving human impact on it aside.

    A couple years ago, I would have expected some kind of awakening with global efforts, but the opposite is the case.

    • colechristensen 32 minutes ago

      >A couple years ago, I would have expected some kind of awakening with global efforts, but the opposite is the case.

      The only thing we can do is slightly tweak the exponential adoption curve of solar, it's already here, already the cheapest option, already growing exponentially. We're right in the meaty part of the growth phase of solar and "moral" adoption pushes really don't have much to do with growth any more.

      And also there are positives, CO2 is a potent fertilizer and there is plenty of land area which is uninhabitable and unsuitable for farmland which is going to boom with population and agriculture.

      We're up for a century of change and migration and people need to change their tune from "oh no!" to "what's next?"

      What's next is a lot of migration to the likes of Canada and Siberia and perhaps some active geoengineering building up the new locations around the globe for rainforests.

      You have to let go of the past and embrace the future because crying about losing the Earth as it was 200 years ago will get you exactly nowhere.

  • warumdarum an hour ago

    So wouldnt it make sense to give up on the protect a disneyland of nature idea, and genemodify the rainforrest to adapt to heat? Fast forward around die off,adaption,recovery?

    • dullcrisp an hour ago

      I only buy certified organic non-GMO rainforest, so save a patch for me before you burn the rest of it down and replace it with a monocrop.

    • deepvibrations 44 minutes ago

      Not sure more meddling with nature is the best idea given our past history of it. There is a good chance you fix one problem and create 10 more!

      • spwa4 18 minutes ago

        The only meddling with nature that went horribly is repeatedly introducing invasive species, then seeing the result after a short time.

        And the part that isn't discussed at all, of course, is that that happens all the time in nature.

        Of course the solution to climate change is humanity taking control of the climate. But the problem with that is equally simple: warming is inconvenient, but generally helps everyone. Cooling, on the other hand, ... or even merely stopping the warming.

        For example, if you started cooling the Ganges valley, it loses about 92% of it's water supply 1 or 2 years after the temperature stops rising (because it's glacial meltwater). That's a billion people, including the entire country of Bangladesh that will be moving. And when it comes to a moving date, to these people, tomorrow (as in never) will always look better than any possible agreement.