Beautiful, and would be so much more beautiful if it used a modern font, without these weird cs and fs. I actually had to copy-paste "reproduction" to convince myself that this is a c character, and I'm not reading something in some ancient version of english with characters that I've never seen.
> in some ancient version of english with characters that I've never seen
There are really only 3, or if you want to stretch it 5, English characters that you might not be familiar with as characters: þ, ƿ, ð, æ, and ȝ. And the last of those isn't even present in Old English; it's a Middle English thing.
If you were reading something in Old English, the use of ƿ wouldn't really be an issue - the issue would be that nothing made any sense. Recognizing the characters used, or not, is irrelevant.
The reprint of the Byrne edition of Euclid is the most beautiful book I have, and I have more shelf-metres of books than I have fingers and toes. It will always have a prominent place in my home. This website day have been what got me into it -- I don't remember.
I used to have a lot of trouble with Euclid's (translated) definition of a straight line, ... What the heck is "lies evenly". Playfair's made it click.
Another point is those Euclidean definitions aren't really formal definitions, but familiarisations. Then it makes more sense.
After Playfairs my understanding of an Euclidean straight line is that it's a function from a pair of points to a set of points (that forms the line) such that if you invoke the same function on any pair of points in its range you get back the same exact set of points (the range of the function). This made it click why a "straight line" in hyperbolic geometry or spherical geometry is still a "straight line".
On a different note, David Berlinski's Tour of Calculus is possibly the most atrocious, verbal diarrheaic book I have ever read. The formula of the book seems to be that every confusing sentence can be righted if every noun is accompanied by 20 florid adjectives and verbs by 59 muddled adverbs and no one will notice that the sentence is nonsense.
For some reason it gets a lot of love among some HN readers. Very few books generate as much revulsion in me than that one.
Beautiful, and would be so much more beautiful if it used a modern font, without these weird cs and fs. I actually had to copy-paste "reproduction" to convince myself that this is a c character, and I'm not reading something in some ancient version of english with characters that I've never seen.
You get used to it very quickly. If you're actually interested, give it five minutes and you'll read it like normal.
If you're not interested, the long s and the ligatures are not the problem.
> in some ancient version of english with characters that I've never seen
There are really only 3, or if you want to stretch it 5, English characters that you might not be familiar with as characters: þ, ƿ, ð, æ, and ȝ. And the last of those isn't even present in Old English; it's a Middle English thing.
If you were reading something in Old English, the use of ƿ wouldn't really be an issue - the issue would be that nothing made any sense. Recognizing the characters used, or not, is irrelevant.
As you note, the recognition issue is an issue of fonts and not of alphabets. Compare wikipedia's sample of blackletter: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Calligraphy.malmesbu...
Whats up with the typos? Is it the fonts? I have no problem reading it but i wanted my kid to read it
The reprint of the Byrne edition of Euclid is the most beautiful book I have, and I have more shelf-metres of books than I have fingers and toes. It will always have a prominent place in my home. This website day have been what got me into it -- I don't remember.
It's also fun to try to replicate the proofs!
Indeed. It's such a beautiful book.
I love Playfair's too.
I used to have a lot of trouble with Euclid's (translated) definition of a straight line, ... What the heck is "lies evenly". Playfair's made it click.
Another point is those Euclidean definitions aren't really formal definitions, but familiarisations. Then it makes more sense.
After Playfairs my understanding of an Euclidean straight line is that it's a function from a pair of points to a set of points (that forms the line) such that if you invoke the same function on any pair of points in its range you get back the same exact set of points (the range of the function). This made it click why a "straight line" in hyperbolic geometry or spherical geometry is still a "straight line".
On a different note, David Berlinski's Tour of Calculus is possibly the most atrocious, verbal diarrheaic book I have ever read. The formula of the book seems to be that every confusing sentence can be righted if every noun is accompanied by 20 florid adjectives and verbs by 59 muddled adverbs and no one will notice that the sentence is nonsense.
For some reason it gets a lot of love among some HN readers. Very few books generate as much revulsion in me than that one.
St. John's College FTW!
Euclid's Elements: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euclid%27s_Elements
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